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But what I'm saying is, if the needle

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hasn't pierced your own
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how much it hurts. Doors slammed

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in my face, things thrown out at me,

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told to get lost. I've
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touch lives with your life.

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That's the meaning of being alive.

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Linda, when we first met,

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you were running for school
trustee four years ago,

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for the Richmond School Board.

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I remember you got over
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That's right.

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A really good result. You were only

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a few hundred votes
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That's right.

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So back then,

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I remember after the election

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we met at a dinner, and you

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said to me, "Sarah,

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I'm going back to school." To do

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an MBA, or further studies

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in management. I remember at the time

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I was filled with respect. I felt you

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were someone always striving forward.

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Thank you. Actually, it's

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a bit of a long story.

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Why I ran for office,

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or why I wanted to keep studying,

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I immigrated here 30
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10 to 20 years, I spent a long

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time doing community service,

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raising kids and running a business.

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How many kids do you have?

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three sons.

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Yes. And one turning point was my

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husband's death. He passed away in 2019.

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It was cancer. Very unfortunate.

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went through a period of
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we had to turn the page,
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Life has to go on. From 2019

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to now, it's been seven years.

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And in 2022 you came out

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to run in the municipal election, so

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you took three years to heal. I hear

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you and your husband were very close.

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Losing a loved one,

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yet you didn't stay in grief.

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Instead you walked out of it resolutely

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and gave back to society with love.

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What kind of strength is that?

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I think it was a kind of
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wasn't very old when he
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on it, you realize

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he was a wonderful man
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He once said, "We're very blessed,

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because we're able to volunteer,

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able to give back. We should
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an inspiration he gave to my life:

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that's how we should see society.

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The other thing is, such a good man,

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when he passed, so very many

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of our friends were heartbroken.
But when you're still,

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you realize that once you're gone,

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the longer it's been, the less

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your influence on
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in our limited lives,

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it's not the length that matters,
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a woman, you

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lost a partner,

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a partner who volunteered with you.

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Did you feel very lonely then?

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It was very... back
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I'd say. I think there is that.

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for us, why do

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two people come together? To have

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a shared home, a shared

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future. When that's gone,

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you feel everything has collapsed.

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Everything I'd built
over twenty-some years

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suddenly seemed gone, as if

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it had no meaning.

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or you'll understand, that

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it hurts a lot. But what I'm saying is,

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if the needle hasn't pierced your skin,

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you really don't know
how much it hurts. Yes.

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I can probably only grasp

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a hundredth, a thousandth
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a woman on her own,

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still raising three kids, and

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a husband who was so loving,

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who left so early like that.

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And yet within those three years you

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were able to come back to life, and

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put your backpack on and start again.

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Actually, even when my husband was alive,

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I was always doing community service.

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I've done it for twenty-some years. My

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very first volunteering was when my kid

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started elementary school,
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I just felt that having come here,

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we needed to learn
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after volunteering there, I joined

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the City of Richmond's

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early childhood advisory committee.

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president of the Richmond
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And of course, where I met

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you: the Chinese business
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a former ambassador for the Richmond
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now. All of this has been

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my long-term path, building
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After my husband passed, I just felt

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we had to keep moving
forward. Life goes on.

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That's why I thought I'd step out again

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and further my education,

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because it had always been
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Your late husband's
encouragement has always

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influenced you: his words,
his voice and smile,

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all his dreams, his ideals,

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his constant dedication to the community

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kept influencing you,
and you've carried on

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passing on his love. Actually,

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my impression of you
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circle. Your community work,

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the Lions Club, all Hong Kong-based

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groups. Yes. Are you from Hong Kong?

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No, my husband is from Hong Kong.

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I worked very hard to learn Cantonese,

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because when I had my kids,

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back then, since we came

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quite early, in the '90s,

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family doctors in our community

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never spoke Mandarin at all.

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So you had to push yourself

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and just start speaking. I think

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that was a very good thing.

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And with other friends,

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I always encourage them: it's

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okay, just believe in yourself. Just like

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us here, as first-generation immigrants,

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our English may not be

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as good as people born here,

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but that's okay. Language is just a tool

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for communication. Be brave
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Yes, fitting into the
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Over these twenty-some years,

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of course, you weren't
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but I hear that before, this society

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was so influential that,
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all three levels of
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At its busiest and most influential,

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over a thousand people.

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Once a month?

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We had an event every month,

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and all of them were large events.

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All of our directors,

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all board members, were volunteers.

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For example, I'm sure
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Every year we'd hold events at Lansdowne:

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Lunar New Year, Mid-Autumn, Asian Heritage

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Month, or a health fair.

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We also had a children's art contest.

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We'd hold them all at Lansdowne,

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a place with big community reach.

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And each event was a full day.

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On top of that, every year we'd join

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the Salmon Festival parade,

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and other events. Basically,

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we had an event every month.

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So we were very busy, and at the same time

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we had a great deal of
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Actually, in terms of entering politics,

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I've learned a lot from
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across Richmond, without exaggeration,

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I've knocked on doors in 70 to 80% of it.

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All of Richmond, as big as it is,

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because school trustee
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Do you knock on doors by yourself?

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I have a team,

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but I'm always there. My friends say

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I stay in shape because I knock on doors.

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Another thing is, when

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we run provincially, you

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cover one riding, about
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Last time I knocked on every single door.

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I knocked on every door. Of
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and there are always opponents, because

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in a democracy there are different voices.

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I think you just accept that calmly,

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and hope more and more people understand

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my only aim is to serve the community.

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That takes perseverance. So when

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you're knocking on doors, has anyone been

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rude to you, or refused to

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talk to you? Definitely. Or doors slammed

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in my face, things thrown out at me,

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told to get lost. Yes. I think

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whatever we do, we'll always run into

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setbacks. Don't take it to heart

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and let it become a setback, a resistance.

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So how do you handle it yourself,

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not get emotional, and in the moment

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turn it around quickly?

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Yes, because often when people are

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emotional with you, it's
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It's really their feelings
about the status quo.

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Right, it's not

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about you.

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And I feel even if they don't like me,

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no one is liked 100%.

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Not everyone has to like
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We just let everything happen

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and do our best.

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We show our best, and

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hope to win more people's hearts.

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Because you shouldn't
dwell or wear yourself out.

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That's how we keep living.

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In life or in politics,
don't wear yourself out,

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just keep charging ahead.

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Yes, because I meet a lot of young

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mothers too. Many of
them see so many Chinese

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women entering politics, and they

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also have this idea.

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What advice would you give them?

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I warmly welcome everyone

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to join us. Having

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immigrated here, what matters most?

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This is our home.

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We have to treat it as our home.

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In this home, you have to be

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the master of the house. To have a say,

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you have to speak up, step up

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and raise issues. Right. What
gives you standing to speak?

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Your participation in
society. Besides volunteering,

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you can enter politics.
Besides doing business

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to contribute, you can
also go into politics.

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Because it's easy for us to say

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this policy is bad, that policy

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is bad. Only when you have a
voice, when you're in politics,

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when you become someone
who makes the rules,

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part of the process, can you

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better change society and make

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our society even better.

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So I encourage all my friends,

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if you're willing, and
it's what we encourage now,

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we hope more Chinese
Canadians get into politics.

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Actually, the party doesn't matter. Every

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party surely has a good side that helps

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our society. Each time,

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when voters choose a different

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party, it's just from their
point of view. They feel

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at this time, this party's platform

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suits me better. But in the end,

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it comes down to the individual.

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Right? Each

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individual person.

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Yes.

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I just hope voters will think carefully

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and choose well. Choose
someone willing to listen

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to your voice, willing
to speak up for you.

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So each of you voters is

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our focus. Every one of us is

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a living, breathing
person. We're not data.

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We change the community through

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every person's voice. A
representative of the people

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brings your voices forward.

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So over these past 20 years, you must

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have gathered many residents' voices.

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Can you give a few examples?

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Actually, there are all kinds,

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because I'm very involved
in the community.

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Ever since my kids were young, I've

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been closely connected with education:

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volunteering at schools, then

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the City's advisory

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committee, all the way to now,

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on the SFU Board of Governors.

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I've always been closely
tied to education.

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So I also joined parent advisory councils,

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and so I have many such

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friends. For example, from daily

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school drop-offs, traffic, to the school's

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curriculum, what's good and what's not,

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we have lots and lots of conversations.

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So hearing so many different

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opinions, I hope that with

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this foundation I can
truly bring everyone's

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voices to our

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policymakers and implementers.

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That's really why you need to step up

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and run: to listen to
people and represent them.

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Great answer, thank you.

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So today,

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in our conversation,

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we'd really like to

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talk from a woman's perspective

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about women in politics.

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For you,

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from 2022, 2020, 2022 onward,

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you've been on the path of politics.

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Have you had really down

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moments, really sad moments,

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or felt that

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you'd taken the wrong path,

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or people around you
really discouraged you?

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Has that happened to you?

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I'd say I haven't really had

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a particularly down moment.

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Because of course when you run,

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you want to win. You want

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to get across what you stand for.

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How should I put it... when my husband,

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my late husband, passed
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when he left, that was

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the first blow in my life.

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Right? Then later you realize

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there are still many people
around you to care for,

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and you become strong. I mean,

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I don't want others to
see me disappointed.

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When I step out, I'm
still an upbeat leader.

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I've always been this upbeat.

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So when you're in politics,

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you have many... when
you go into politics,

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often some people won't understand you,

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and some will disagree with you.

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I think, first, be tolerant.

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Second,

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don't hit back at others.

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Look at it from a higher vantage point:

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what can I do

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that can have an impact on society?

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Because if I just volunteer on my own,

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it may be on a small scale.

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If I go into politics,
I hope I can do more.

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Actually, I've always held one belief:

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touch lives with your life. That is

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the meaning of being
alive. That's also why

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I've been involved in
community work all these years,

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including politics now.

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I believe that's the
original purpose behind it.

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And because of that purpose,
this year you're able

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to step up once again. Win

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or not, you'll be the best
version of yourself. Yes.

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I won't make any predictions,

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but I'll be the best version of myself.

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I'll give it my very hardest.

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I hope that...

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each of us carries

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the hopes of many people.

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I won't let down those who believe in me.

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So your story is really

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a role model for many of us women.

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Thank you. I'd really encourage everyone:

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be strong. In life,
learn to turn the page.

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Don't let yourself sink into it

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and not get out. There's really no

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need. Life is very short.

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Let's live it deeper and wider,

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make it more meaningful. I remember

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Nietzsche said, "Every
day we have not danced

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is a day wasted."

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So I hope to live every day well.

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We grow as we chase
our dreams, right? Yes.

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Let's grow together.

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Yes, so glad. Thank you.

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Thank you so much for
sharing with us today.