Episode 1
A Scientist Runs for Office
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Keenan Yang recalls her path from international student to environmental engineering, and discusses technology in government, her reasons for running and facing opposition. The original programme title is retained; education, work and personal history are presented as her account.
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- 0:00Highlights
- 0:38An international student since 2014
- 1:06Technology in government — without cutting jobs
- 1:26Arriving alone in Vancouver
- 1:56Skydiving and flying planes
- 2:18Surfing without swimming
- 2:34Bold, and bringing others along
- 3:04An ordinary person in politics
- 3:43Voters who don't know how voting works
- 4:11Politics in Canada comes from the heart
- 4:34Facing opposition
- 5:21Worried families and boundaries
- 5:51Resilience
- 6:2540 politics explainer videos
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Keenan Yang (杨楠) | Ep. 1: A Scientist Runs for Office | 2026 BC Election Interview
https://youtu.be/XJhYTHl7fUo
(Transcript from the episode's English subtitles, translated from the Chinese interview; speakers not labelled. Host: Sarah Yu.)
[0:00] Highlights
Lately, in Vancouver's Chinese community, a lot of people are talking about you, saying, "Even scientists are running for office now!" What's the motivation behind this? What I want to say is that the government workforce is aging, and a lot of the ways of working are still very traditional. That includes our own company. Some of our older managers, the people in management — even now, they can rarely use AI or computers fluently, things like that. During the pandemic, when we held meetings on Teams or Google Meet online, a lot of them just couldn't get on. - And they needed training. - Right. They had to get trained first, and then every time they logged on, it was really chaotic — people kept dropping off and coming back.
[0:38] An international student since 2014
Could you introduce yourself for us? Sure! My name is Keenan Yang. Everyone calls me Keenan, and my Chinese name is Yang Nan. I came to Canada in 2014 as an international student. At UBC, I studied hydrogeological engineering, so now I'm actually working in my field. I'm a full-time environmental engineer. Right now my work is mainly about environmental contamination in land development, including water, soil and air. So I'm actually what everyone wanted to be as a kid: a scientist.
[1:06] Technology in government — without cutting jobs
So in running for office, you want to bring new high-tech ideas and new workflows into city hall and the provincial government, right? Yes, that's one of them: efficiency. Bringing high technology and AI into the actual work we do, because it can really boost productivity. Of course, we can't do it at the cost of jobs.
[1:26] Arriving alone in Vancouver
So you came to Vancouver in 2014, right? As an international student. So, were there times you felt lonely, or nights when you couldn't sleep, all alone, trying to make it here — those kinds of hard times? Actually, from the moment I arrived, everyone I met was very friendly. The landlord of the first place I rented picked me up at the airport. Then he brought me straight here and had me get my driver's licence, then drove me to the US to buy duty-free bedding, shoes, that kind of stuff.
[1:56] Skydiving and flying planes
Do you have any special hobbies? My hobbies are pretty wide-ranging. Some high-risk adventure sports, like skydiving and flying planes. That's impressive! So would you say that you're kind of a tomboy at heart? Yes, I'm actually pretty... I mean, I've got a woman's body with a man's heart — Superman! Superwoman. - Superwoman. - Supergirl.
[2:18] Surfing without swimming
Surfing. I can't swim, but I love every kind of water sport. That's pretty dangerous too. If you can't swim and you fall in while surfing, you'd have no way to save yourself. I'm not afraid of water, because when you surf, isn't your foot tied to the board with a leash? So if you fall in, if you hold your breath for 60 seconds, you'll come up one way or another.
[2:34] Bold, and bringing others along
I think, by nature, you're someone who's really bold and daring. So you have the style and traits of a reformer. There's a bit of that. Sometimes I can be unwilling to settle. Right, like... liking what's new, liking to explore things in new fields. Right. Not one to play by the rules. And I really stick to what I believe in. I hope more people can be like me, too. So sometimes we actually hold in-person meetups for women or people our age. We share our experiences, and sometimes things people want to do but don't dare, we talk it over and do them together.
[3:04] An ordinary person in politics
For us women, especially young, accomplished women, what spirit would you like to pass on to everyone? First of all, I want to set an example. And that example is... On Xiaohongshu (RedNote), I go by "an ordinary person entering politics." Meaning that, honestly, before this I didn't have much political experience, and my family didn't have any resources in this area either. But when you set out to do something, if you really work hard at it, you'll eventually move toward success. As for how far you get in this life on the road to success, who knows. But there have to be people who keep pushing forward in this direction, one after another. So what I want to do is actively encourage Chinese Canadians to get into politics, and actively encourage white-collar workers like me. During this campaign,
[3:43] Voters who don't know how voting works
I've actually noticed a lot of problems. For one, a lot of voters in Richmond, when it comes to voting and elections, actually know nothing at all. Lately I've been educating many friends about all this, like the difference between civic and provincial elections, why this year there's a provincial election, how the Premier is chosen, how many people sit on city council, how they make decisions, can I vote separately in provincial and civic elections? So many questions. they just don't know. Right, a lot of people don't know.
[4:11] Politics in Canada comes from the heart
So what do you think — for these people, going into politics, deep down, what is it they're really aiming for? In Canada, going into politics has to come from the heart. If you're in it for personal gain, you basically won't get it here. So people in politics here basically all start from the heart. Meaning, I feel the people around me really do have this need, so I'll stand up as their representative. The motive isn't money or self-interest; it's that I really want to do this.
[4:34] Facing opposition
So if people oppose you, or you run into major difficulties, have you ever given up, or felt discouraged inside? I do. Sometimes I feel discouraged or upset, because around us, there really are a lot of opposing voices. Or rather, it's not really opposition. It's a bit like your mom telling you it's all for your own good. There's a lot of that kind of talk coming your way. People are really taking their own insecurities and anxieties and basically grafting them onto you, projecting them onto you. But founding a party and keeping it going — this is something we'll definitely see through to the end. It's like you've already had a baby. You've already had a child. Even if you think the child isn't good-looking, you can't exactly stuff them back in, right? You still have to educate them well and raise them. Because the moment you decide to have a child, you're responsible for their first 18 years. And the moment we founded this party, we became responsible for its growth and for making it stronger.
[5:21] Worried families and boundaries
Right. Honestly, in the Chinese community, a lot of people... it's basically like when we were kids, right? Family and friends around us would put lots of their worries on us. But these worries aren't necessarily... Not necessarily bad. Right, they're not bad. But they don't really reflect your actual situation. Right. So we also need to learn how to set boundaries with them. That's why I also say, as a candidate, you need a really strong mindset.
[5:51] Resilience
Mindset. Also, I once heard Jensen Huang say that resilience — your resilience — is what our times need most. Whatever industry you're in, you'll get bent. Right. That resilience is so important. Very true. Because in today's society, if you do nothing, you're never wrong; the more you do, the more you're blamed. It's like, for example, say you're in a community group and you say, "All right, I'll organize an event." When you propose an event, everyone in the group will chime in with different ideas: "Do it this way," "Do it that way." But when you don't hold an event, nobody else will either.
[6:25] 40 politics explainer videos
Actually, I think you could also use some online strategies so that your videos, or your social media, can spread a little faster. You'll also see that on my social media, I've been uploading videos one after another. Early on, I talked it over with my team, and we made 40 topics, basically Canadian Politics 101 questions. For example, how much does an MLA earn? Can you run if you don't speak English? If you weren't born in Canada, or don't speak French, can you become Premier? Questions like these that people are curious about but don't really know the answers to. Fairly light topics. Right. Each episode is roughly one to two minutes, explaining one of these questions. I'm gradually uploading these videos, and I can see the view counts are actually decent on WeChat, Xiaohongshu (RedNote) and YouTube. And now I'm also making English versions for Instagram and Facebook. So I think the reach is decent. Even if I don't get elected this year, I think this thing I've done, giving people a basic political education, is my contribution too. That's great!










