Lawrence Chen 陈卫平 Interview collection | 2026 BC election

陈卫平 Lawrence Chen 人物专访｜第一集：不爱说话，不是病｜2026 BC 省选

https://youtu.be/aDexWq_rUKs

（文字稿据节目字幕整理，未区分说话人；主持：余佩珊 Sarah Yu）

[0:00] 精彩预告

其实这不是病这不是一个自闭症的问题

是社会没有给他一个包容

我中午不是给你带了饭吗

她说都被学生给抢走了

她一口都吃不了

你如果不懂share的话

你就离开这个学校

[0:17] 加西党 CanWest Party

老陈

非常感谢今天来到

我们的演播厅听说

你成立一个新的政党叫什么名字

我们这个党的名字叫

CanWest Party加西党

那能不能给我们观众简单介绍

一下你这个政党的政策纲领

我们的政党要说成立的话

应该是07年就成立了

对 那个时候我们成立的名字

不是叫这个名字 叫民族联盟党

Nation Alliance Party

成立了以后我们经过了几次选举

在省政府我们是省级政党

Provincial Party

省级政党批准我们的一个前提

就是每一次的省选你们

一定要派出你们的民意代表

几个候选人去参加选举

如果有一次不参加选举的话

那你这个政党

就被close了

对close了所以我们在前几年呢

我不选了以后呢我们就关闭了

那今年的二月份呢

我们又再次把这个政党给恢复了

那恢复的时候呢

就不能用那个名字了

所以我们就重新

起了个名字叫CanWest Party加西党

[1:28] 草根政党

那其实你想告诉观众

就是说其实它的政治纲领

其实都是差不多的

对 我们始终都没有变

我们早期和现在基本上有

一个就是我们都属于草根

阶级的政党也就是我们的党员

我们的所有的支持者都是 普通市民

都是普通人对而且绝大部分都是

第一代移民有这么一个特点

因为我们定义为草根政党

就是我们当参选的时候

我们作为一个candidate

就是民意代表民代对吧

你代表了这个选区的民意

你要倾听民意然后你把这个

声音带到省政府也好带到

市政府也好因此我们的纲领呢

是自下而上的不是自上而下的

[2:13] 第一次以省级政党亮相

我们政党因为是这一次

省选第一次的展现给外界

我们是一个CanWest Party 是个省级政党

我们也希望通过这次

省选让更多的人能了解我们

因为我最近说了

很多那个政党事情他们都不知道

没有人替我们做宣传只知道

我过去那个民族联盟党

CanWest Party他们都不知道

因为我记得你们也是刚刚成立不久对吧

因为列治文市选

也有好多人不知道

我的名字叫什么 就知道我叫老陈

陈卫平 但是在选举的时候

我用的是Lawrence Chen

所以因为在选举的时候

没有中文字对吧

所以Lawrence Chen就是我的竞选的名字

我是叫陈卫平

你这次选学务委员

都是这个名字然后省选代表

Richmond Centre社区对

因为那个地区华人比较多

华人比例比较多

中产阶级公寓比较多在那个地区

[3:11] 1998 年出国留学

那老陈那我想了解就是您是

在哪一年来到加拿大的

之前是作为留学吗是在别的国家吗

对我是98年出国留学

先去了澳大利亚那时候

我读的是硕士

工商管理硕士有两个major一个是

financial一个是

business management的管理那我的

本科是在中国在大连海运学院

那时叫海运学院 现在海事大学

学的本科

然后澳大利亚

读完了硕士之后我就移民到这边来

所以我是技术移民

那你觉得澳大利亚

这个国家跟加拿大相比的话

他们在医疗在教育

体制有什么不一样吗

早期的加拿大跟澳大利亚差不多

后来当我来到加拿大以后

我发现这边医疗

我们当年来的时候是买医疗保险的对

有医疗保险

一百多块呢对吧是澳大利亚呢

是没有的澳大利亚是

他们国家的人和我说话说

澳大利亚是真正的叫社会主义国家

教育免费医疗免费没有工作了

到政府去领钱去

没有条件的不需要任何证明

你就来领就行了你只要说你没有工作

他相信你的他就给你钱花了

那加拿大的国家呢

当时我们来的时候呢

教育当然是免费的

医疗就是要花钱的

没有钱了没有工作了找政府要钱不行

你得前面有工作给你开个EI

才能去拿钱的这点跟澳大利亚

不一样 澳大利亚没有EI的

EI就是说你已经工作了

你交了一个就像失业保险似的对吧

所以加拿大在制度上

其实当年不如澳大利亚我认为

但是它们都属于一个体系

上都是当年的Queen

那当年你为什么后来选择来加拿大了

我毕业以后我就想移民的话

当时有两个国家一个澳大利亚

一个加拿大我都申请了

那加拿大批得比较快

澳大利亚批得比较慢 所以我就反正批的话

就来了当时我也觉得来到加拿大

也是靠近美国比较近

可能这个地方更发达一些

也是莫名其妙的一种想法

就稀里糊涂就来了 就到现在

[5:13] 本来只选学务委员

我本来说选个是

学务委员结果就弄在一起去了

结果很多记者不懂了

你怎么又选这个选那个 那不是我要选

那你为什么给它叠到一起去呢

你这个来得也太突然了吧

因为我们是省级政党

我们必须要参加省选

这个是规则所规定的对吧

在你之前没有省选之前那我想

我的朋友我的很多支持者都是

家长孩子们的家长跟我说了

很多比如说孩子一些自闭症的问题

抑郁症的问题希望引起政府的重视

[5:42] 不爱说话就是自闭症？

我觉得这是个很好的一个议题

这就变成我们的纲领了

所以我希望选学委能够跟教育局

说你们应该关心这些孩子

但是在我整个的采访过程当中

我发现了一个问题

就是这个国家他们把这个

小孩在这不说话定义为自闭症

然后让他去看医生吃药

但是我走访了很多华人

家长他们说我们的孩子

其实不是自闭症是因为来到

一个新的环境语言不好

到了班里也没有朋友没有人跟他说话

所以他有一个适应的过程

在这个适应过程当中他可能

就是不爱说话或者就比较闷闷的

那当地的这些教育专家呢

他们不懂

因为他们就在本地长大的平时小孩

都有很多朋友啊说话聊天啊

但是新来的一个外来的一个新生

包括我女儿当时进学校的时候

就是所有人都欺负她

这儿人也欺负老实人

一个是你语言不好 另外你就是生人

所以越有人欺负他

就越不爱说话 越不爱说话回家就生闷气

其实这不是病这不是一个自闭症的问题

是社会没有给他一个包容

所以在这种情况下

我是希望把家长的这个声音

带到这个政府里边就是

你们不要把一个孩子由于他不爱说话

就推给医生就让他吃药

没病都让你弄出病来了

本来人家就是好好的

[7:09] 女儿的午饭天天被抢

你应该多关心他一下

我的女儿第一次来到这国家

那时候是2000年的时候

进到一个学校里边

我早晨给她带一块很好吃的东西

到下午两点钟放学回来拼命地吃饭

我说你怎么能饿成这种样子呢

我中午不是给你带了饭吗

她说都被学生给抢走了她一口都吃不了

她一到开饭时间

别人过来啪拿走这个吃了

她不敢说话人家别人好几个孩子

给她吃所以她永远饿着肚子

我才明白闹了半天

我这个孩子回到家闷闷不乐

在学校是被欺负的

[7:44] 校长：不懂 share 就离开

那当时有没有写信给校长

我找校长了校长对我一顿大骂一直说

你们新移民不懂得我们这个叫share

用这个词

我们不接受你这个说法

你如果不懂share的话

你就离开这个学校

什么叫share他说你把你的

孩子的饭应该也分给别人吃不是

share的前提是这个人愿意去做

这个事情但是当时你说

你的孩子毕竟就是这么一份饭

就一份饭

她不可能再share给所有的人

你share一半也行

你让我的孩子一口都吃不着

而且我都不知道关键事先是

孩子回家不说的

只是回家就找东西拼命地吃 时间长了以后

我发现为什么能饿成这种样子

就是水也没有了给她带那个果汁

她也喝不着就别拿也就是说

这个新来的孩子在班里边被欺负

这个我是很有感触的

所以我就认为像这种情况下他不爱说话

闷闷不乐其实他不是病态

他绝对就是社会的造成的

那需要我们家长要关心

老师应该关心 家长不知情 老师在说

你的孩子病了去看医生再吃了

一个什么奇怪的药你这不是瞎闹吗

这个就是说要通过我们政党

把这些民众的声音反映出来

因为政党是一个可以说话的平台对吧

它不是社团

它就是要就一些政策性的

这些方面的一些issue呢

反映给民意代表嘛

我们代表民意告诉政府

你应该调整你是不是应该要求

我们的学校应该关心一下这些

新来的学生由于他的语言

不好又没有天然的朋友

可能他并不是病态不要把他们推到

医院去这个很多家长

就觉得要通过我来说话

[9:30] 为什么选学委

我觉得这是我参选的一个目的

那你这次还在选吗还是说你已经退出来了

因为他省选来得太晚了

我们已经退不出来了

他有一个报名几天可以退

都报名完都19号截止的

省选是22 三天之后宣布省选

那时候我们已经不能退了

你想退也退不了了

那等于你先选是学委员 学委

然后再去做这个省选的事情

当然这个对于我来说

并不是很大的问题因为我选学委呢

我的最终的目的呢是希望借助

这个平台呢让这些

school board的人能够听到

我们有这样的声音

代表着好几千人的声音

对我已经很满意了

我自己能不能当选

其实并不是特别重要

我并不是说要死乞白赖地为了当选

我说不是的其实我一直之前选市长

也是这样我跟马保定选市长

我当然知道我选不上了

但是我可以跟他说话

我可以说你应该这样改进

而且在选举时他听我说话

很好就是be yourself

be best of yourself

对啊媒体也采访我

你为什么要选我说因为这儿

要改进只有在竞选的时候

所有的媒体都会把我的话

公布出来说陈说了

这个地方要改进这个我已经很满意了

这个就是一个民主制度里边

这个发声的代表草根阶层

发声的一个最好的平台

很佩服你的勇气

最好的时间段了

那这个时候呢就是我

发出这些声来其实没有人骂我

因为我说的都是很现实的东西

我也没有敌视谁只是说

代表我们的选民 他们有这样的想法

请你们考虑

他们觉得我这种做法是可以接受的

不是不能接受的

[11:10] 当不当选不重要

之前是想选个学委把我们这些家长们的

心声讲出来能不能当选

我不太介意的我过去选举

也是这样的心态那这次呢

省选来了我也是想选省议员

也是把这个税收的问题

这是老百姓的意思 至于你降不降税

是你的事情但是我不能不说对吧

你的税太重了你的税重

就因为你负债太多了

没办法 知道你怎么着也得加税

再一个医疗的问题能不能

解决一下 这是一个最好的发声平台了

如果选民认同

支持我一票 当然我也是非常欢迎的

但是如果不支持的话

也没关系至少我这个说法呢

就是代表了不是我一个人的声音

真的一片很多人的声音

Lawrence Chen (陈卫平) | Ep. 1: Not Talking Isn't an Illness | 2026 BC Election Interview

https://youtu.be/aDexWq_rUKs

(Transcript from the episode's English subtitles; speakers not labelled. Host: Sarah Yu.)

[0:00] Highlights

Actually, it's not an illness. It's not an autism issue. It's that society hasn't been accepting of them. Didn't I pack you a lunch? She said other students took it all. She couldn't eat a single bite. If you don't understand sharing, then leave this school.

[0:17] The CanWest Party

Lao Chen, thank you so much for coming to our studio today. I hear you've founded a new party. What's it called? Our party is called the CanWest Party. Could you briefly introduce your party's platform to our viewers? As for when our party was founded, it was actually back in 2007. Yes. Back then, the name we started with wasn't this one. It was called the Nation Alliance Party. After that, we ran in several elections. Provincially, we're what's called a provincial party. One condition for approving a provincial party is that in every provincial election, you must put forward your representatives— a few candidates—to run. If you skip even one election, then your party gets closed. Right, closed. So a few years ago, after I stopped running, we were closed. Then this February, we revived the party. But when we revived it, we couldn't use the old name anymore. So we came up with a new name: the CanWest Party.

[1:28] A grassroots party

So what you want to tell viewers is that its political platform is basically the same. Right. We've never changed. Then and now, basically, one thing holds: we're a grassroots party. That is, our members and all our supporters are ordinary citizens, ordinary people. And the vast majority are first-generation immigrants. That's our profile. Because we define ourselves as a grassroots party, when we run for office, we, as candidates, are representatives of the people, right? You represent the people of your riding. You listen to them, and then you take their voice to the provincial government, or to city hall. So our platform is bottom-up, not top-down.

[2:13] First time on the provincial stage

Because this provincial election is the first time our party is showing itself to the public. We're the CanWest Party, a provincial party, and we hope that through this provincial election, more people will get to know us. Lately I've talked a lot about the party, and people had no idea. Nobody promotes us. People only knew my old Nation Alliance Party. The CanWest Party, they'd never heard of. As I recall, you were only founded recently, right? In the Richmond civic election too, a lot of people didn't know my name. They just knew me as Lao Chen. Wei Ping Chen. But in elections, I use Lawrence Chen. Because in elections there are no Chinese characters, right? So Lawrence Chen is my campaign name. My name is Wei Ping Chen. And for school trustee this time, it's the same name. And provincially, you're running in Richmond Centre. Yes. Because that area has lots of Chinese residents— a high proportion of Chinese, lots of middle-class condos in that area.

[3:11] Studying abroad in 1998

Lao Chen, I'd like to know what year you came to Canada. Before that, did you study abroad? In another country? Yes, I went abroad to study in 1998, first to Australia. At the time I did a master's degree, an MBA, with two majors: one was finance, the other business management. My undergrad was in China, at Dalian Maritime College— as it was called then, now Dalian Maritime University— for my bachelor's. Then in Australia, after finishing my master's, I immigrated here. So I came as a skilled immigrant. So how do you think Australia compares with Canada? In healthcare, in education, are their systems any different? Early on, Canada was similar to Australia. Later, after I came to Canada, I found that healthcare here— when we came, we had to buy medical insurance. Right. Yes, medical premiums. Over $100, right? But in Australia there was none of that. Australia was— people there told me Australia is a truly socialist country. Free education, free healthcare. Out of work? You go get money from the government, no strings attached, no proof needed. You just go collect it. Just say you have no job, they believe you and give you money to spend. As for Canada, when we came, education was free, of course, but healthcare cost money. No money, no job? You couldn't just ask the government for money. You had to have worked before and get EI before you could get money. That's different from Australia. Australia has no EI. EI means you've already worked and paid into something like unemployment insurance, right? So in terms of the system, Canada wasn't as good as Australia back then, in my view. But they were both part of the same system, both under the Queen back then. So why did you end up choosing Canada? After I graduated, I wanted to immigrate. There were two countries: Australia and Canada. I applied to both. Canada approved faster; Australia was slower. So since I got approved, I came. I also thought that Canada, being closer to the U.S., might be more developed. It was kind of a random idea. I just sort of ended up here, and I've been here since.

[5:13] Running for school trustee

I'd originally meant to run just for school trustee, but it all ended up overlapping. Lots of reporters were confused: why run for this and that? It's not that I wanted to. So why did you stack them together? This came up so suddenly. Because we're a provincial party, we have to run in provincial elections. That's what the rules require, right? Before the provincial election came up, I thought— my friends, many of my supporters, are parents. Parents told me a lot, like about kids with autism issues and depression, hoping the government would take notice.

[5:42] Quiet doesn't mean autistic

I thought it was a really good issue. That became our platform. So I hoped that as a trustee, I could tell the school board that they should care about these kids. But throughout my interviews, I found a problem. In this country, they label a child who doesn't talk here as autistic, and send them to a doctor for medication. But I visited many Chinese parents, and they said their kids actually aren't autistic. It's because they came to a new environment, their language isn't good, they have no friends in class, nobody talks to them. So they go through a period of adjustment. During that adjustment, they might not want to talk, or be kind of withdrawn. But the local education experts don't get it, because they grew up here. Kids here normally have lots of friends to talk and chat with. But a newcomer, a new student from elsewhere— including my daughter, when she started school— everyone bullied her. People here pick on the meek, too. For one, your language isn't good, and you're a stranger. So the more they get bullied, the less they talk, and the more they sulk at home. Actually, it's not an illness. It's not an autism issue. It's that society hasn't been accepting of them. So given this situation, I want to bring the parents' voices to the government, to say: Don't take a child who doesn't like to talk and push them to a doctor, make them take medication. You'll make a healthy kid sick. They were perfectly fine to begin with.

[7:09] His daughter's lunch

You should care about them more. When my daughter first came to this country— that was back in 2000— she started at a school. In the morning, I packed her something really tasty. At 2 p.m., she'd come home from school and eat ravenously. I said, how are you this hungry? Didn't I pack you a lunch? She said other students took it all. She couldn't eat a single bite. As soon as it was lunchtime, others would come, grab it and eat it. She didn't dare speak up. Several kids ate her food, so she was always hungry. Only then did I realize that my child came home unhappy because she was being bullied at school.

[7:44] “If you don't understand sharing, leave”

Did you write to the principal back then? I went to the principal. He chewed me out, kept saying you new immigrants don't understand what we call sharing. That was his word. We don't accept what you're saying. If you don't understand sharing, then leave this school. What's sharing? He said your child's lunch should be shared with others. No— sharing only works if the person is willing to do it. But back then, look, the child only had that one lunch. Just one lunch. She can't share it with everyone. Sharing half would be fine, but you left my child without a single bite. And I didn't even know. The thing is, she wouldn't say anything at home. She'd just come home and eat like crazy. After a while, I wondered why she was this hungry. She had nothing to drink either. The juice I packed, she never got to drink—it was taken. In other words, a new kid gets bullied in class. This really hit home for me. So I believe in cases like this, if a kid doesn't talk and seems down, it's not an illness. It's definitely caused by society. So we parents need to pay attention, teachers should too. Parents don't know, and teachers say your child is sick, go see a doctor, take some strange medication. Isn't that just nonsense? That's why we want to use our party to voice these people's concerns. Because a party is a platform to speak, right? It's not a community group. It's about taking certain policy issues to the people's representatives. We speak for the people and tell the government you should adjust. Shouldn't you require our schools to look out for these new students? Because their language is weak and they have no friends to begin with, they may not be sick at all. Don't push them into hospitals. Many parents feel they want to speak through me.

[9:30] Why school trustee

I see that as one reason I'm running. So are you still running, or have you withdrawn? The provincial election came too late. We couldn't withdraw anymore. You have a few days after registering to withdraw. Registration closed on the 19th. The provincial vote was called the 22nd, three days later. By then we couldn't withdraw. Even if you wanted to, you couldn't. So in effect, you're running for school trustee first, and then the provincial election. Of course, for me that's not a big problem. As for running for trustee, my ultimate goal is to use this platform so that the school board can hear that we have these voices— voices representing several thousand people. I'd already be satisfied. Whether I get elected isn't really that important. I'm not saying I'm desperate to win at any cost. I say no. Actually, when I ran for mayor before, it was the same. I ran for mayor against Malcolm Brodie. Of course I knew I wouldn't win. But I could talk to him. I could tell him how he should improve. And during the election, he listened to me. Great. Just be yourself, be the best of yourself. Right. The media interviewed me too: Why are you running? I said because things here need improving. Only during a campaign will all the media take what I say and publish it: "Chen said this needs improving." I'm already satisfied with that. In a democratic system, this is the best platform for a grassroots representative to make their voice heard. I admire your courage. It's the best time. And during that time, when I spoke out on these issues, nobody actually attacked me, because everything I said was very practical. I wasn't hostile to anyone. I just said, on behalf of our voters: they have these views, please consider them. People felt my approach was acceptable, not unacceptable.

[11:10] Winning isn't what matters

Before, I wanted to run for trustee to voice what we parents truly feel. Whether I win or not, I don't really mind. In past elections I had the same mindset. And this time, with the provincial election here, I'm running for MLA also to raise the tax issue. This is what ordinary people want. Whether you cut taxes is your call, but I have to say it, right? Your taxes are too heavy. They're heavy because you're carrying too much debt. I know you'll have to raise taxes regardless. Also, can the healthcare problem be dealt with? This is the best platform to speak up. If voters agree and give me their vote, of course I'd welcome it. But if they don't, that's fine. At least what I'm saying represents not just my own voice, but truly the voices of many people.

陈卫平 Lawrence Chen 人物专访｜第二集：看病要等四个月｜2026 BC 省选

https://youtu.be/P_atcxwUZao

（文字稿据节目字幕整理，未区分说话人；主持：余佩珊 Sarah Yu）

[0:00] 精彩预告

不要跟我说你高大上的

你投个几百亿盖个多少大厦

这个跟我们没有关系的

不是说一点关系没有

我们觉得当务之急要解决这个

马上缩短看病就医的时间

时间长了人就死了

我看了省政府 就是NDP政府

关于医疗的他们一个报告

他们说他们投入了大量的资金

可是我们看不见

这个不像是一个发达国家的特点

对吧你怎么能让一个病人等四个月呢

他会把债务转嫁到

我们老百姓身上

我们原来准备是28年省选的

我们也没有准备好

[0:40] 膝盖 CT 排了四个月

很多朋友们他们就说 老陈

医疗等待时间过长了

这个是不是要反映 对

如果他有这样的反映

我本人也有这样的经历 我照一个

我这个腿四个月才排上队

而且四个月还是因为加塞

医院说

你要不然等等六个月

说四个月内有一个人临时退了

早上八点钟就得来医院行不行

我说行 就这么加那个塞 四个月

我也有深 就是感受一下

膝盖是吧 膝盖的 拍的CT吗 对 CT

还照那什么

照一个CT 按你在中国的话

你当天就能拿到结果 都是

当天 在中国 都是 当天

但是在这边要等四个月

可见 我们加拿大这个免费医疗体系

就是排队的人真的是巨多

但是师资（医生）力量和设施确实

是目前来说还需要改善很大

它 这个不像是一个发达国家的特点

对吧你怎么能让一个病人等四个月呢

所以我们的选民或者我们的朋友

我们的邻居 他们有这样的诉求

我也有这样的同感

那我就认为这个就变成

我们党的纲领了 那政党

我们作为草根阶级的政党

就是倾听民意 然后替民发声

把他们这些疾苦反映到省政府去

然后希望省政府能改进

这个就是政党的功能

你有没有研究过

就比如说在医疗方面假设咱们

这个政党有话语权了

能参选上了 那你在医疗方面

你将要怎么实施呢

[2:14] 列治文医院只有一台 CT？

我看了省政府 就是NDP政府

关于医疗的他们一个报告

他们说他们投入了大量的资金

可是我们看不见

比方说Richmond医院

你不管投入多少资金

为什么这个CT机就一台

这个太简单了

一台CT机不是很大的钱吧

但是哪一年 CT机只有一台 应该现在不会了吧

Richmond医院

真的就只有一台吗

你去试试看 你排队试试看

那为什么不去选择别的医院呢

就是你这边

当时我住在Richmond

家庭医生就是说

不管你有几台 两台三台也好

你的病人 你的人口和这个

机器的数量不成比例

那作为政府投资一台

CT机应该是很简单的事情

这个问题不是这一两年的事情了

很多年了 从我来这边都快30年了

我98年就出来了

从中国离开中国了 30年前就这样

到30年后今天还是这样

这显然是政府的问题

不是老百姓的问题

对吧 那这种情况下

那我们政党的纲领呢

就是希望代表民意跟省政府说

医疗方面的设备你是不是应该

投资准确一点 投资我们所看得见的

我们所急需的 我们很无感

你说你投了多少钱

但是我们一看不见 或者说这个

病人等候的时间并没有缩短

[3:40] 家庭医生不够

没有缩短

对吧 现在很重要的一个问题

就是等待时间太长了

并不是说你医疗设备不好

也不是说你医生不好

你医生都很好 设备很好

可是我等了一个月人都死了

最后我有很多朋友回到

中国去做手术就很好

到那一星一周之内手术做完了

在这儿等一个月都算短的了

所以这个问题难道你不解决吗

你可以说你投了多少钱

但是我们老百姓完完全全地看不到

我们只需要那些最基本的

比方说家庭医生

两种语言的家庭医生不够

对吧 至少在这个地区不够

那病人看病难 家庭医生难

这个是人们生活当中最基本的需求

你作为政府应该解决

不要跟我说你高大上的

你投个几百亿盖个多少大厦

这个跟我们没有关系的

不是说一点关系没有

我们觉得当务之急要解决这个

马上缩短看病就医的时间

时间长了人就死了

长期规划和你短期

要解决的问题都要兼顾才行

[4:46] 老百姓税负太重

当然了 所以在医疗方面

就是我们知道选民有很大的诉求

那我们就把这个声音放大

这是我们一个纲领之一 第二纲领

现在老百姓的税收负担太重了

BC省有多少税

省政府现在PST又要涨了

空屋税又要涨了 为什么要涨税呢

我也看到省政府这个报告了

NDP上台之前17年的时候

到现在他跟前任之比

就债务 政府的债务负担增加了

136%也就是他负债更多了

他说他都花了 那不管你花哪去了

一旦政府负债 他就是要加税

对吧 他会把债务转嫁到

我们老百姓身上

是的

所以你政府这些钱花到

这些地方是不是都很合理

在这个国家没有一个像中国似的

还有什么中纪委

还有什么监察院 没有人监督

只有反对党在那监督

但是反对党他也不监督

因为他的议员也在里边

他也不是说这NDP

就是你把那个93个议员也不都是你的

他也有在里边 对吧

所以在这种情况下

你花了那么多钱 最后呢

你说我负债重了上来加税

把这个所有的负担都

落在我们老百姓头上了

[6:06] 交完地税只剩几十块

我前几天 我是七月份

六七月份看了一个视频

讲一个白人老太太

她录了一个视频

其实她录的时候都带着哭腔 就是

然后呢说自己刚刚支付完自己的地税

但支付完了以后发现自己

银行卡里面只有几十块钱

税太重了

所以就是说

我那个视频看完以后

我在想 那人们怎么生活呀

所以现在这个NDP政府呢

在这两方面呢

我认为是做得非常之差的

普遍的老百姓也是这么认为的

就是我经常去倾听民意

就是跟他们谈话 说你

对这个社会你觉得很幸福吗

幸福指数很高吗 最近不高了

最近一段时间物价整个在

因为你税高的话

整个在往上走

[6:55] 为什么提前大选

那你是怎么看待 就是说现在

既然NDP

有一些人的声音是不满意的

很多老百姓是不满意的

那为什么省长David又要进行大选

他这次大选的目的大家应该都知道了

因为他的对手叫省保守党

不是联邦保守党 是BC省的保守党

由于内部打架党领也没有了

党员也一大堆也走了

他认为在这个空档

整个的保守党处于群龙无首的

情况下 他认为这是

一个机会主义是吗 对

他想把他的席位扩大

其实他现在已经是过半了

按理说没有太大的影响

他推动他自己的政策

但是他还想把席位再次扩大

趁对手危机时刻突然提前两年

我们原来准备是28年省选的

我们也没有准备好

提前两年突然改成这个

要重新选 叫省议员 省议会

他是认为在这个对手

很弱的情况下呢能够可以扩大

可以再执政四年 等于多赚了两年

因为你执政并不好

前提是如果你执政很好的话也行 但是

他这样的 如果说没选上

也是一个

对吧 就等于其实有一点押注的形式

是有点押注 现在就是

大家普遍的反应是负面的

你干嘛要这次又跟

市选弄在一起去了 对吧

Lawrence Chen (陈卫平) | Ep. 2: Four Months for a Scan | 2026 BC Election Interview

https://youtu.be/P_atcxwUZao

(Transcript from the episode's English subtitles; speakers not labelled. Host: Sarah Yu.)

[0:00] Highlights

Don't give me the grand talk about spending tens of billions on big buildings. That has nothing to do with us. Not that it's completely unrelated, but we think the urgent priority is to cut wait times for medical care right away. Wait too long and people die. I looked at the provincial NDP government's report on health care. They say they've invested a huge amount of money, but we can't see it. This isn't what a developed country looks like. Right? How can you make a patient wait four months? They'll pass the debt on to us ordinary people. We'd been preparing for a 2028 provincial election. We weren't ready either.

[0:40] Four months for a knee scan

Lots of friends tell me, "Lao Chen, medical wait times are far too long. Shouldn't this be raised?" Right. When people raise concerns like this— I've been through it myself. I needed a scan on my leg, and it took four months to get in. And even four months was only by squeezing in. The hospital said, "Either you wait six months, or someone just cancelled within four months— can you be here at 8 a.m.?" I said yes. Even jumping the queue, it still took four months. So I've felt this firsthand too. - Your knee? Was it a CT scan? - Yes, a CT. What else would it be? A CT scan—if you were in China, you'd get the results the same day. Same day. In China, it's always same day. But here you wait four months. Clearly, with Canada's free health care system, the queues are really, really long, and doctors and facilities really still need a lot of improvement for now. That isn't what a developed country looks like. Right? How can you make a patient wait four months? So when our voters, our friends, our neighbours have these concerns and I feel the same way, then I think this becomes part of our party's platform. A party— as a grassroots party, we listen to the people and speak for them, taking their hardships to the provincial government in the hope that it will improve things. That's what a political party is for. Have you looked into, say, health care—suppose your party had a real voice and got elected. On health care, what would you actually do?

[2:14] One CT scanner?

I looked at the provincial NDP government's report on health care. They say they've invested a huge amount of money, but we can't see it. Take Richmond Hospital. However much money you put in, why is there only one CT scanner? This is really simple. A CT scanner isn't big money, is it? But what year was there only one? Surely not now? Richmond Hospital really has just one? Go and try it. Try waiting in that line. Then why not choose another hospital? Because where you are— I was living in Richmond then, and the family doctor, you know— No matter how many you have—two, three— your patients, your population, are out of proportion to the machines. For a government, investing in a CT scanner should be a simple thing. This problem isn't just a year or two old. It's been years. I've been here almost 30 years. I came out in '98, left China. It was like this 30 years ago, and 30 years later, it's still the same. That's clearly the government's problem, not the people's. Right? So in this situation, our party's platform is to speak for the people and tell the province: when it comes to medical equipment, shouldn't you invest more precisely? Invest in what we can see, what we urgently need. We don't feel it. You say you've invested so much, but we can't see it. Or rather, patient wait times haven't come down.

[3:40] Not enough family doctors

They haven't come down. Right? A key problem right now is that wait times are too long. It's not that your equipment is bad, or that your doctors are bad. The doctors are great, the equipment is great, but after a month of waiting, I'm already dead. In the end, a lot of my friends went back to China for surgery, and it went fine. Within a week of getting there, it was done. Here, a one-month wait counts as short. So aren't you going to fix this? You can tell us how much you invested, but ordinary people can't see it at all. We only need the most basic things, like family doctors. There aren't enough bilingual family doctors, right? At least not in this area. It's hard to see a doctor, hard to find a family doctor. These are the most basic needs in people's lives. As the government, you should address them. Don't give me the grand talk about spending tens of billions on big buildings. That has nothing to do with us. Not that it's completely unrelated, but we think the urgent priority is to cut wait times for medical care right away. Wait too long and people die. Long-term planning and short-term problems both have to be addressed.

[4:46] Taxes are too heavy

Of course. So on health care, we know voters have strong demands, so we amplify that voice. That's one of our platform planks. The second: people's tax burden is far too heavy now. How many taxes does BC have? The province is raising the PST again, raising the vacancy tax again. Why raise taxes? I've seen the province's report too. From 2017, before the NDP took office, to now, compared with its predecessor, the debt—the government's debt burden is up 136%. In other words, it owes more. They say it's all been spent. No matter where it went, once the government's in debt, it raises taxes. Right? They'll pass the debt on to us ordinary people. Yes. So is the government spending this money on things that are all reasonable? This country doesn't have anything like China's Discipline Inspection Commission or supervisory commission. Nobody oversees it. Only the opposition keeps watch. But the opposition doesn't watch either, because its MLAs are in there too. It's not as if the NDP has all 93 MLAs—they're not all yours. The others are in there too, right? So in this situation, you spent all that money, and in the end you say, "We're in heavy debt," and raise taxes, so the whole burden falls on us ordinary people.

[6:06] Left with a few dollars after property tax

A while back—in July, June or July—I watched a video of an elderly white woman. She recorded a video, and she was nearly in tears while recording it. She said she'd just paid her property tax, and after paying it, she found she had only a few dozen dollars left in the bank. Taxes are too heavy. So, I mean, after I watched that video, I thought, how are people supposed to live? So this NDP government, on these two fronts, has done very poorly, in my view. Ordinary people generally think so too. I often go out to listen to people, talk with them, and ask, "Are you happy in this society? Is your happiness level high?" Lately, not really. Lately, prices across the board have been— because when taxes are high, everything keeps going up.

[6:55] Why an early election

So how do you see it? I mean, now since the NDP has some people voicing dissatisfaction— Many people are dissatisfied. then why is Premier David Eby calling an election? Everyone should know his goal by now. His opponent is the BC Conservatives— not the federal Conservatives, the BC Conservatives. Infighting has left them without a leader, and lots of members have left too. He figures that in this gap, with the whole Conservative Party leaderless, he sees it as a... - Opportunistic, you mean? - Yes. He wants to expand his seats. He actually already has a majority. So in principle, it shouldn't matter much for pushing his own policies. But he wants to expand his seats even more, so with his rival in crisis, he moved it up two years. We'd been preparing for a 2028 provincial election. We weren't ready either. Two years early, it's suddenly been changed to a new election for MLAs, for the legislature. He thinks that with his rival this weak, he can expand his seats and govern four more years— two extra years. Because you haven't governed well. Granted, if you'd governed well, that'd be fine. But this way, if he doesn't win, that's also a... Right, so it's really a kind of gamble. It is a bit of a gamble. Right now, the general reaction is negative: why did you have to lump it in with the municipal elections this time, right?

陈卫平 Lawrence Chen 人物专访｜第三集：第三种选择｜2026 BC 省选

https://youtu.be/F-vjazWzxZI

（文字稿据节目字幕整理，未区分说话人；主持：余佩珊 Sarah Yu）

[0:00] 精彩预告

因此在过去 资本家有代言人

比方说有自由党

那工会有代言人有NDP

但真正再往下最底层的草根阶级

其实没有人管他们

能不能把这些所有的小党 对

所有的小党全部组合

变成真正一个第三梯队

我这人就是说一做一

对吧 我说的少做的多

[0:27] 加西党和 NDP 有什么不同

因为我刚刚也听您CanWest的

这个党比较亲民

而且能反映基层声音 对吧

然后在医疗和减税

对 你们主张减税

但是我觉得在亲民和基层这一块

那NDP跟你们有什么区别吗

NDP它定义为叫蓝领阶层

蓝领阶层

也是有点就是偏老百姓 普通市民的心声这样子

它跟传统的省自由党不一样

省自由党是贵族阶级的政党

它有大的财团 大的资本在后面

当时的NDP它是以工会为核心的

工会就是代表了

工人阶级和历史的定义

和资本家对抗的那么一个组织

所以工会每年从你的会员里边

工资里边抽一个很小的钱作为

你的会费 然后每四年

我要替你要求涨工资 向资方

现在很多资方都政府了

像教育局 什么垃圾工人

还有邮局也是资方的

包括叫什么警察

他们也都是政府的雇员

那这些工会每四年去

向政府要求给我的工会会员涨工资

所以NDP就基于在这个组织之上的

所以它的所有的政策首先倾向于它的 蓝领

蓝领 它的工会会员

我们不是的

我们是所有的老百姓的利益

我们替他们发声

因此在过去资本家有代言人

比方说有自由党

那工会有代言人有NDP

但真正再往下最底层的草根阶级

其实没有人管他们

他们的死活是没人听的

他们的声音没人听的

那我们就补了这一块了

我们就是找那些最普通的老百姓

你有什么想法

你也是这儿的居民对吧

你有什么就觉得需要政府改进的

你跟我们说我们来替你发声

所以我们是代表真正的

普罗大众的草根阶层

而NDP是代表了它的以工会

为核心的一个会员的一个阶层

稍微有一点点不一样

我们的更宽一些 他们更局限一些

[2:37] 省保守党与联邦保守党

那你觉得这次提前两年大选

那保守党最近也是它的党魁

也宣布辞职

后来又上来一个临时的党魁

你怎么看待这个事情

它不是纯粹的保守党

这个保守只是一个名字

而且它省保守党

跟联邦保守党是完全不一样的

最近有很多朋友们老跟我说

他就是对这个概念 他认为保守党

它跟那个联邦保守党

它可能是一样的 这个一体的 对

有一个误区 可能人们认为

自由党就是崇尚自由 不是这样的

就叫自由党

保守党就是非常保守 也不是这样了

它仅仅是一个名字对吧

那这种情况下我们首先分清

联邦保守党是一个政党

省保守党是另外一个政党

他们俩并不是这种有联系的关系

当年的省自由党的

候选人进入这里面来了

而原来的省保守党的

一些人没有那么高的

他们在内部是有很多的不合的

就是政治观点是完全不一样的

甚至呢就是说就是180度的

就是我要求完全开放

你要求怎么怎么 就是打得 就是根本就不能协调了

我们政党呢

我们没有那么多的候选人

[3:51] 加西党这次派出两位候选人

我是在Richmond Centre选省议员

我们还有一位党员杨南

他在Richmond的南区选

我们目前只派出来两个候选人

因为没有足够的准备时间

[4:02] 可以同时加入几个党吗

怎么能够 老陈

就是怎么能够加入

他是可以同时加入好几个党吗

还是说像比如说想要加入

你的CanWest这个党 可以的

但是他之前是加入过保守党

或者是NDP也可以加入CanWest

可以的 这边政党是自由的

它仅仅是一个理念认知

我今天认同你这个党的领导了

和纲领了 我就可以加入你变成

你的支持者 过两天你乱了

你又让我不满意了

我就不加入你了 我可以加入别人

这个是完全没有问题的

那其实今天咱们主要聊的

层面是在咱们的政党政纲上面

你也讲了非常多细的事情

然后关于这些民生对吧

也确实是真实的一些情况发生

那咱们就是往后面

就是说您预测一下NDP

和保守党这一次会呈现

整个省省级这一块会呈现

一个怎样的一个状态呢

[5:01] 谁会赢？

你说谁赢谁输是吧 谁过半数吧

对 我觉得还是NDP执政

是因为他们已经有做了

充分的准备了 对这次省选

相比较之下

相比之下

NDP还有自己的一套体系

相对稳定的体系 对

只能是这样 那就是我们

必须再忍受NDP的高税收

那我们其实这些普通市民的心声

就需要通过你们的党

去往上反映了

[5:30] 至少能把话说出来

我们目前能做到的 至少把话

可以说出来 在竞选的时候

因为现在记者天天在采访我

我把我的那些观点都跟他们讲了

都是白人的 就是英文的记者

至少他可以透过一渠道帮我说出去了

他们也觉得我说的也比较有道理

你就像我之前说

那个教育这个问题 他们

也原来意识到这个孩子不说话

真的可能不是自闭症对吧

那通过我才知道 可是他们

跟家长之间是没有沟通渠道的

你家长嚷了半天他也是不理你的

那所以这个选举的话

不管是他们谁赢至少我们呢透过

这个平台呢告诉大家我们来了

我们可以为草根阶层去说话了

未来通过这一次呢

我们党呢希望能够逐渐地壮大

能够吸收更多的党员进来 认同

我们理念的 愿意帮助这些基层

百姓的有想法的朋友们加入我们

这样我们在四年之后呢

我们其实有93个省议员提名的

这个名额在这儿 对 我们应该提

你作为省级政党的话

一定要提93个

那这次所有的政党呢

我看一下昨天的报道

可能只有这个省保守党

它提满了93个了

好像NDP还有一个没提出来

我不知道看得准不准

但是他们两个人

就都提出来九十几个人了

那其他的小党呢都是两三个四五个

其实BC省的

这些小党呢 我倒认为呢

不要各自为战了

[7:00] 小党联合起来

能不能把这些所有的小党 对

所有的小党全部组合 变成真正一个第三梯队

在这种情况下

就会给选民一个很好的选择

这些小党都是叫在野

也就是说我们都是在外面

并过去没有任何的腐败的负担

丑闻在里面 你没有执政

这些人也都是希望

BC省能够搞得更好的

都是不喜欢现在的NDP

也不喜欢现在的省保守党

因此如果有可能把所有的

小党在四年之后把它

组建成为一个第三政党

在这种情况下很可能

我们是给选民一个第三种选择

现在省民想有第三种选择

在某一个区就没有

它一共就两个人 在有些区

就比如我那个区有

至少他们说你选了

我的朋友说你选了我就投你

如果你不出来选的话

我根本就不投票了

就我的死党就是我们叫铁票仓对吧

[7:58] 列治文两三千张铁票

我在Richmond大概有个两三千的

铁票仓就是我不用做什么宣传

只要我去选市长他们一定投我

赢不赢他们不管

他就是政治认同 理念

就认同你了如果我不选了

他们也绝不会投另外一个人

因为这个东西是很难改变

不是说你做宣传

因为在加拿大没有一个法律约束

这个候选人说今天你选举的时候

你承诺上台要做这东西

如果你上台不做了

我要让你下去 没有这么一个法律

所以他们在选之前就狮子大开口

我承诺这个我承诺那个

都承诺完了以后

一旦上台了就拜拜了

不履行承诺 联邦也是这样

省也是这样市也是这样

所以这种情况下呢

大家就是根本就不相信

就是我这些朋友们

根本就不相信谁说的

他说我就相信老陈

你要上去你肯定你说的是做到

因为我这人就是说一做一

对吧 我说的少做的多

我绝不会说

这个什么天花乱坠 最后一个不做

我不是那样的人 所以他们

了解我的人都知道我的性格

所以我走到哪 我选省选

他们就跟我到省选 我要选学务委员

他就跟学务委员

我要说不选市长了

他们市长就不投了

就这样 是这样的

Lawrence Chen (陈卫平) | Ep. 3: A Third Choice | 2026 BC Election Interview

https://youtu.be/F-vjazWzxZI

(Transcript from the episode's English subtitles; speakers not labelled. Host: Sarah Yu.)

[0:00] Highlights

So in the past, capitalists had a voice: the Liberals, for example. And the unions had theirs: the NDP. But the real grassroots, at the very bottom— no one was looking out for them. Could we take all these small parties— combine all the small parties into a real third option? I'm a man of my word. I talk less and do more.

[0:27] CanWest vs. the NDP

From what you've just said, CanWest is a party close to ordinary people that reflects grassroots voices, right? And on health care and tax cuts— right, you advocate cutting taxes. But on being close to ordinary people, how is the NDP different from you? The NDP defines itself as blue-collar. Blue-collar— also leaning toward ordinary people, everyday citizens' voices. It's unlike the traditional BC Liberals. The BC Liberals are the party of the elite, with big business and big money behind it. Back then the NDP was built around unions. Unions represent the working class—by historical definition, an organization that takes on capitalists. So every year the union takes a small cut of members' wages as your dues. Then every four years, it pushes the employer to raise your pay. Now many employers are the government, like school boards, garbage workers, the post office too, and even, what's it called, the police. They're all government employees. So every four years, these unions go and ask the government to raise their members' pay. The NDP is built on that organization. So its policies favour, first and foremost, its blue-collar union members. We're not like that. We stand for all ordinary people. We speak up for them. So in the past, capitalists had a voice: the Liberals, for example. And the unions had theirs: the NDP. But the real grassroots, at the very bottom— no one was looking out for them. No one cares whether they live or die. No one listens to their voices. So we fill that gap. We go to the most ordinary people: "What do you think? You live here too, right? What should the government do better? Tell us, and we'll speak up for you." So we represent the real grassroots, the general public, while the NDP represents its union-centred membership. It's a little different. Ours is broader; theirs is narrower.

[2:37] Provincial vs. federal Conservatives

So this election comes two years early, and the BC Conservatives' leader recently announced his resignation, and then an interim leader took over. What's your take on all this? It's not truly conservative. "Conservative" is just a name. Also, the BC Conservative Party is totally different from the federal one. Lately many friends keep telling me that they think the BC Conservatives and the federal Conservatives might be the same, a single entity. There's a misconception. People may think the Liberals stand for liberty. Not so. It's just called "Liberal." "Conservative" means very conservative? Not so either. It's only a name, right? So first, let's be clear: the federal Conservatives are one party, the BC Conservatives are another. The two aren't connected in that way. Back then, BC Liberal candidates came into the party, while some of the original BC Conservatives weren't as... There's a lot of internal discord. Their politics are completely different, even 180 degrees apart. Like, I want things fully open, you want something else—they clash. There's no reconciling it. As for our party, we don't have that many candidates.

[3:51] Two CanWest candidates

I'm running for MLA in Richmond Centre. Another member of ours, Keenan Yang, is running in Richmond South. So far we've fielded only two candidates since there wasn't enough time to prepare.

[4:02] Can you join more than one party?

Lao Chen, how can someone join? Can a person join several parties at once? Or, say, someone wants to join your CanWest Party— - Yes, they can. But they were in the Conservatives before, or the NDP—can they still join CanWest? Yes. Party membership here is open. It's simply about sharing a set of ideas. If today I back your party's leadership and platform, I can join and become your supporter. If later you fall apart and I'm not happy with you anymore, I'll leave and join someone else. That's completely fine. What we've mainly talked about today is your party's platform. You've gone into a lot of detail about people's daily lives, right? And these are real things happening. So looking ahead, can you predict how the NDP and the Conservatives will do this time, and how things will look across the province?

[5:01] Who will win?

Who wins, who loses? Who gets a majority? Right. I think the NDP will still govern. It's because they've already made thorough preparations for this election. Relatively speaking, By comparison, the NDP has its own system, a relatively stable one. Right. That's how it'll be. Which means we have to endure the NDP's high taxes again. So the voices of ordinary citizens like us need your party to carry them upward.

[5:30] At least we can speak up

What we can do now is at least speak our minds during the campaign. Reporters interview me every day now, and I've shared all my views with them. English-language reporters. At least they can get my message out. They think what I say makes sense, too. Like what I said earlier about education. They realized a child who doesn't speak may not actually have autism, right? They learned that through me. But they have no way to communicate with parents. Parents can shout all day; they ignore you. So in this election, whoever wins, at least through this platform we tell everyone we're here. We can speak for the grassroots now. Going forward, after this election, we hope our party can gradually grow and attract more members. Those who share our values, who want to help ordinary people and have ideas—join us. That way, four years from now, we'd actually have 93 MLA nomination slots available. Yes, we should fill them. As a provincial party, you must run all 93. Among all the parties this time, from what I saw in yesterday's reports, maybe only the BC Conservatives have filled all 93. The NDP seems to have one riding unfilled. I'm not sure I read that right. But the two of them have each nominated over 90. The other small parties have two or three, or four or five. Actually, in BC, as for the small parties, I think they should stop going it alone.

[7:00] Small parties, joining forces

Could we take all these small parties— combine all the small parties into a real third option? That way, voters would have a really good choice. These small parties are all out of power, meaning we're all on the outside. We carry no baggage of corruption or scandal, since we've never governed. These people all want BC to do better. They don't like the current NDP, nor the current BC Conservatives. So if it's possible to take all the small parties in four years and build them into a third party, then quite possibly we'd give voters a third option. Right now, if voters want a third option, in some ridings there isn't one. It's just two candidates. In some ridings, like mine, there is one. At least they say, "If you run—" my friends say, "If you run, I'll vote for you. If you don't run, I won't vote at all." My diehard supporters—what we call a loyal base of voters.

[7:58] A loyal base in Richmond

In Richmond I have about 2,000 to 3,000 loyal voters. I don't need to campaign; if I run for mayor, they'll vote for me. Win or lose, they don't care. It's about political identity and values. They're behind you. If I don't run, they'll never vote for anyone else. That's something very hard to change. Campaigning won't change it. Because in Canada, no law binds candidates—saying, "In the election, you promised to do this once elected. If you don't do it once in office, I'll remove you." There's no such law. So before elections they promise the moon: "I promise this, I promise that." After making all those promises, once they're in office, it's bye-bye. Promises broken. Federally, it's the same; provincially too, and municipally too. So in this situation, people just don't believe anyone. These friends of mine just don't believe what anyone says. They say, "I only trust Lao Chen. If you get in, you'll do what you say." Because I'm a man of my word. I talk less and do more. I'd never make grand promises and then deliver nothing. I'm not that kind of person. So those who know me know my character. So wherever I go—if I run provincially, they follow me there. If I run for school trustee, they vote for school trustee. If I say I'm not running for mayor, they won't vote for mayor. That's how it is.

陈卫平 Lawrence Chen 人物专访｜第四集：为没有选票的人发声｜2026 BC 省选

https://youtu.be/ypzPC6rT2tk

（文字稿据节目字幕整理，未区分说话人；主持：余佩珊 Sarah Yu）

[0:00] 精彩预告

我们华人将近9万

这些人生活在这个地方也纳税了

也养儿育女了也在这里

就是消费工作但是没有 选举权

你要是没有讲Mandarin的话

我就走了我就不开户了

后来果然那是二十多年前了

那温哥华的机场就突然

就出现了中文的牌子了

[0:23] 列治文的永久居民

再有一个很重要的一点就是我想

在这次选举中提出来在Richmond

PR的人数非常之多

就我们华人将近9万

这些人生活在这个地方

也纳税了也养儿育女了

也在这里就是消费工作

但是没有选举权我认为这个

对他们多少有一些不公平

但是这个话题呢不是省级

选举的话题是联邦选举的话题

要给这些居住在永久居民嘛

对吧既然永久都居住在你这儿了

其实你这些政策对他们

是有影响的他们纳税了

他们不是不纳税对吧

他仅仅和我们区别

就是一个选举和被选举权

如果能给他们这些PR

选举至少投票的权利

你可以说他不能当候选人

我可以理解对吧对这个

其实联邦可以改一下对

这个就是我今天第一次提出来的

就是我希望不管是省

或者联邦政府是不是在未来的

选举里边考虑一下给永久居民

一个投票的权利他们

也有表达他们声音的权利

我这次很多声音其实就真的是

来自于他们他们为什么找

我因为他们没有投票权

他们很无奈他们就是像一个会说话

但是没有是哑巴对吧

对

想说又说不出来

[1:48] 为什么不入籍

这些大部分是大陆的为什么呢

因为你来自香港 台湾

马来西亚新加坡他们是

可以直接入籍而不影响

他们在那边的福利的

台湾是可以承认

既有加拿大护照和台湾护照

他们在台湾的福利非常之好

但是来到这边以后他可以入籍

没有影响但是我们大陆人一旦你入了

这个籍了那边的很多事情

就麻烦了对吧因为那边不承认

你有这种双重的身份

所以他们不入籍不是他们不热爱

这块土地是因为他们

不得已可能在那边还有房产

可能在那边还有爸爸妈妈老人

要去照顾那回国的话

如果你不入籍

是一种对待如果你入籍了

就是另外一种对待了

所以他们有很多现实的考量

不能现在加入这个国籍

但是他们对这个国家的

贡献和我们是一样的对吧

所以在这种情况下

如果有可能的话

将来如果再有联邦选举或者再有

省选举我会把这个议题带到联邦

那个层面上希望给他们

PR一个投票的权利这个

我觉得他们应该有这样的权利

那我们这个发声CanWest

能够在省议会以及或者是

说联邦层面怎么样

能够让上面上层的人知道呢

[3:07] 联邦层面的议题

联邦层面我们没有发言权

因为我们是省级政党

我们只能把这个议题一是

讲给现任的联邦的国会议员

比方说前两天我跟区泽光

有一次谈话我们也有照片

我就跟区泽光讲他就坐在我旁边

我说可不可以把一些

联邦层面的问题我跟你说

我没有办法跟省长说

他说什么问题呢

就这个禁枪令因为我是教枪的

这个禁枪令是2023年由

联邦自由党颁布的一个令

是把好人的枪都给禁掉了

所以他们打猎也好打靶也好

玩枪也好受到了很大的影响

这种情况下他们有一些想法

他是禁了一部分的类型的枪型

一部分但是禁的是

我们好人的枪我们是我教枪牌

上课考试他们合法地拿到了

持枪证然后合法地买了

这些枪支他们去打猎

也好打靶也好作为一个

我们把打枪叫做一个sports

运动奥运会有这个东西对吧

实际上是一种体育运动

或者打猎我们叫户外运动

他们都是好人他们从来没有任何问题

那你把这个枪给禁了

显然我们是不满意的

那为什么我跟区泽光说呢

因为区泽光现在是加入了

联邦保守党那联邦保守党的

那个纲领竞选的时候

就有一个叫取消禁枪令

所以我就支持他在这种情况下

我们作为省级政党的

就只能去支持联邦保守党

或者把我们的话

透过联邦保守党的

这个平台说给联邦自由党听

或者有一天我们想参加联邦大选了

我们只有在选举那时候把这话

说出来有人听只能是这样了

也就是有一些议题

那你怎么区分好人和坏人呢 这一块我也想不明白

[5:00] 持枪证要背景审查

我说的好人坏人就是我们

考完试在申请枪牌的时候

联邦警察局会对你进行

一个background check就看

你过去是不是有犯罪记录

如果你没有犯罪记录了

他把枪牌就发给你了因此持有

枪牌的人都是经过政府核实了

这个人是没有犯罪记录的人

在我的口中就叫做好人

如果有犯罪记录人

就不能给你枪牌了

那在我的口当中就叫做不好的人

但是 也有的人他从来没有做过犯罪

但是可能某一天突然之间是吧

也有这种人

也有啊 如果你现在持有枪牌了

你突然有犯罪记录了

他就给你注销了嘛

所以真正有枪牌的人

其实都是好人

就是遵守法律从来没有犯罪记录的人

这些人你把他的禁掉了

其实是这些人不是构成

这个社会不稳定的因素的人群

真正构成这个社会不稳定的人群

他们不在我们这里面他们没有枪牌

但是他们也有枪

他们可能是从黑市来的

我就跟区泽光就讲这个事情

他也认同因为联邦保守党

就是认同不应该禁好人的枪

应该去对那些不法渠道

进行一定的限制是这样的

[6:21] 2008 年选国会议员

所以有些议题在选举的时候不一样

因为我三级政府我都选过

我在08年的时候选过国会议员

选联邦国会议员的时候

我就说中文成为官方语言

在那个层面是可以说的

当我说中文成为官方语言的

依据就是说既然法语可以成为官方语言

那为什么不可以有第三语言

因为你这个国家是叫多元文化

你没有说一元文化

你也没说二元文化对吧

所以我这么提出来以后

一些洋人的记者就觉得你说的

也有道理不是没道理不是乱讲话

我说对啊他说那你告诉我

如果整个加拿大都实行

第三语言中文了那我们的

政府的开支是不是要增加呢

是不是要增加税收呢

我说不用我说我只希望在局部实现

就可以了比方说在Vancouver

和Toronto这两个地方华人比较多

讲法语的人很少你政府的文件

你就不要英语和法语了

你把法语那块改成英语和中文

你的一点都没有资源浪费

但是我们能够享受政府的

福利的人群就非常之大

哎呀他说你说的这个非常好

所以当时我说了在温哥华的机场

你是不是可以把这牌子

做一个中文牌子呀

你就不要做法语的牌子了吧

这样的话你没增加负担嘛

那我们进来是不是就很方便呢

他说你说的有道理当然那个记者

他是那个联邦就那个CBC记者

他说我去帮你去

可以做宣传嘛 对吧

[7:46] 温哥华机场

后来果然那是二十多年前了

那温哥华的机场就突然就出现了

中文的牌子了什么这个对吧

这个就是很简单就是我说的

如果有道理透过一些正规的

媒体传达给现在的政客

他如果看到我了这个人

他也是代表了一部分人嘛

因为选举的时候肯定是他民意代表

那既然如果这个人说的有道理的话

我们是不是可以改进呢

他就改进了所以我们通过这个

平台去发出声音这个声音代表了

一部分族群如果当权人认为有

参考价值的话他如果做了改进了

那我的任务已经完成了对

加拿大这个社会我们

都带着一种梦想然后都希望

这个社会会越来越好越来越完善

能够真正为普罗大众服务

确实是真的是

看到老陈你为加拿大社会发展

民生稳定生活更美好我觉得

你确实在做很多实实在在的事情

就是我们通过合法的平台去推动

这个社会健康的发展

所以人们看得到我的用心

其实是对的就是你这个国家

确实有这个平台你比如说

我们之前成立一个政党还发起了

一个叫为国人解决就业的一个运动

[9:06] 早年的“说国语”运动

这个可能你们没有听说过

我们在早期的时候

我们零几年的时候刚来的时候

都是技术移民

你们也算技术移民吧对

我是留学生

留学生对

技术移民来这儿最大的困难

就是我们找不到工作

因为语言不好

那怎么办呢我们那个政党

就发起了一个就是当

我们花钱的时候只说Mandarin

然后就会导致这个社会

雇佣更多的Mandarin的雇员

比方说我给你举个案例有个银行

有一天我去开户我一进去以后

我说我要开户

来的老外跟我说英文我说English

no不懂

他说什么语言我说Mandarin等会儿我说

你要是没有讲Mandarin的话

我就走了我就不开户了

我这儿现在5000块钱想存进来

你别走你坐一会儿我们给你找

我们这后台可能有一个讲

Mandarin的 好 过一会儿

坐了一会儿果然就来了一个台湾小女孩

一来

先生你好你是什么一看

不对啊我说做地产经纪

我那有点电视广告

老陈呢 是老陈吗我说对啊

你会说英语你怎么

为什么说你不会说英语

你是为了让这个

银行的管理者

知道中文的重要性如果他

不雇用像中文会说中文的雇员

他可能失去一部分的客户

我说我今天来我就是要告诉

你银行经理由于你来接待我了

我这五千块钱就存在这了

如果没有你我掉头就走了

我要让他知道现在在Richmond

可不止我一个人有很多的人

他真的是英文讲不好他

真的从国内带的钱来要开户了

你们要不要争取这些客户

你要争取这些客户的话

你柜台如果能够聘一个能讲

Mandarin的员工的话

你这个银行肯定能收到

大量的客户对不对

好就从那开始你会发现各个银行全都

配了讲国语的teller（柜员）就在那个

前台这就是我们政党所发起的

运动

我们也没有违反法律我们

就是觉得我就是想说国语了

而且确实我们就是有一些人

真的英文不会投资移民

那他要存钱难道你银行也好

后来包括什么电话公司

什么Telus都雇用了讲国语的

雇员了对吧那就是说我们

这个运动让老百姓能够感受到

你政府真的关心我们了这样的话

我们这是一个很良性的建议

也促进这个社会让大家往前走

让别人来到这以后不感觉到

这个地方很陌生 很温暖 不就是这样吗

这就是我们作为选举的时候呢

所要做的一个真正的初心

[11:46] 近二十年

那你其实从2007年你那个党

其实建立到现在也有

20年时间一直在社区为社区想

策划然后聆听所有人民众的声音

对吧一点一滴的去往上去

发声做了很大的努力

看到你的真的是

希望这个国家好希望市民

普通市民能生活幸福我觉得

你做了很多非常棒给你点赞

我们是用合法的渠道

为百姓发声合法的方法促进

这个社会健康的发展就是这样

Lawrence Chen (陈卫平) | Ep. 4: A Voice for Those Without a Vote | 2026 BC Election Interview

https://youtu.be/ypzPC6rT2tk

(Transcript from the episode's English subtitles; speakers not labelled. Host: Sarah Yu.)

[0:00] Highlights

Nearly 90,000 of us Chinese live here and pay taxes, raise their kids here, spend and work here, but can't vote. If you don't have someone who speaks Mandarin, I'm leaving. I won't open an account. And sure enough, this was 20-some years ago, Vancouver's airport suddenly had signs in Chinese.

[0:23] Permanent residents in Richmond

Another very important point I want to raise in this election: in Richmond, there are a great many PRs. Among us Chinese alone, nearly 90,000. These people live here, pay taxes, raise their kids, spend and work here, but they have no vote. I think that is somewhat unfair to them. But this isn't a provincial election issue. It's a federal one. These permanent residents living here, since they live here permanently, your policies actually affect them. They pay taxes. It's not like they don't pay taxes. The only difference between them and us is the right to vote and run for office. If these PRs could be given at least the right to cast a ballot, you could say they can't be candidates. I'd understand that. This the federal government could change. I'm raising this for the first time today: I hope that whether it's the provincial or federal government, in future elections they'll consider giving PRs the right to vote. They also have the right to be heard. A lot of what I'm hearing this time really comes from them. Why do they come to me? Because they can't vote. They feel helpless. It's like they can talk but have been made mute, right? Right. They want to speak but can't.

[1:48] Why not become citizens?

Most of them are from mainland China. Why? Because if you're from Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia or Singapore, you can become a citizen without affecting your benefits back there. Taiwan recognizes people holding both Canadian and Taiwanese passports. Their benefits in Taiwan are very good, but after coming here they can become citizens with no impact. But for us mainlanders, once you become a citizen, a lot of things back there get complicated, because China doesn't recognize this kind of dual status. So they don't become citizens not because they don't love this land, but because they have no choice. They may still own property there, may still have elderly parents there to look after. And going back to China, if you're not a citizen, you're treated one way. If you are a citizen, you're treated another way. So they have many practical considerations and can't take citizenship right now. But their contribution to this country is the same as ours. So given all this, if possible, in the future, if there's another federal or provincial election, I'll take this issue to the federal level, hoping to give them, the PRs, the right to vote. I think they should have that right. So CanWest's voice, how can it, in the legislature, or at the federal level, reach the people at the top?

[3:07] Federal issues: the gun ban

At the federal level, we have no say, because we're a provincial party. All we can do is, first, raise it with the sitting federal MPs. For example, a few days ago Chak Au and I had a conversation. We have photos too. I told Chak Au, who was sitting next to me. I said, can I bring some federal issues to you, since I can't raise them with the Premier? He asked, what issues? The gun ban. Because I teach firearms courses. This gun ban was issued in 2023 by the federal Liberals. It was an order that banned good people's guns. So whether it's hunting, target shooting or just shooting for fun, they've been hit hard. So they have some views on this. It banned certain types of guns, only some, but what it banned were good people's guns. I teach the PAL course. They take the class and exam, legally obtain a firearms licence, then legally buy these guns. They go hunting or target shooting. As a... we call shooting a sport. It's even in the Olympics, right? It really is a sport. And hunting we call an outdoor activity. They're all good people who've never had any trouble. So when you ban those guns, obviously we're not happy. So why did I tell Chak Au? Because Chak Au has now joined the federal Conservatives, and the federal Conservatives' platform, during the campaign, included repealing the gun ban. So I support him. In this situation, as a provincial party, all we can do is support the federal Conservatives, or get our message, through the federal Conservatives' platform, to the federal Liberals. Or if one day we want to run federally, only at election time could we say this and have people listen. That's the only way. That is, for certain issues. Then how do you tell good from bad? I don't get that part.

[5:00] Firearms licences and background checks

What I mean by good and bad people is: after you pass the exam and apply for a licence, the RCMP will run a background check on you, to see if you have a criminal record. If you don't have a criminal record, they issue you a licence. So everyone holding a licence has been verified by the government as someone with no criminal record. Those are who I call good people. If you have a criminal record, you can't get a licence. Those are who I call people who aren't good. But some people have never committed a crime, and then one day, suddenly... right? There are people like that. Yes, there are. If you hold a licence now and suddenly get a criminal record, they'll just revoke it. So the people who actually hold licences are really all good people, who obey the law and have never had a criminal record. You've banned these people's guns, but these people aren't the ones making society unstable. The people who really make society unstable aren't among us. They don't have licences, but they have guns too, probably from the black market. That's what I told Chak Au, and he agreed, because the federal Conservatives agree that you shouldn't ban good people's guns, but should put some restrictions on illegal channels. That's how it is.

[6:21] Running federally in 2008

So some issues differ depending on the election, since I've run at all three levels of government. In 2008 I ran for MP. When I ran for federal MP, I said Chinese should become an official language. At that level, you can say that. My reasoning for saying Chinese should be an official language was: if French can be one, why can't there be a third language? Because this country calls itself multicultural. It didn't say monocultural, and it didn't say bicultural either, right? So after I put that forward, some non-Chinese reporters felt what I said had a point. It made sense, it wasn't nonsense. I said, exactly. One said, then tell me: if all of Canada adopted Chinese as a third language, wouldn't our government spending go up? Wouldn't taxes have to go up? I said no. I only want it in some places. That's enough. Say, in Vancouver and Toronto, where there are many Chinese and few French speakers. Government documents don't need to be in English and French. Change the French part to English and Chinese. You waste no resources at all, yet the number of us who can benefit from government services gets huge. He said, "Wow, that's a really good point." So I said back then: at Vancouver's airport, could you make the signs in Chinese? Skip the French signs. That way, you're not adding any cost. And wouldn't it be easier for us arriving? He said that made sense. That reporter was a national... a CBC reporter. He said, I'll help you spread the word, right?

[7:46] Chinese signs at YVR

And sure enough, this was 20-some years ago, Vancouver's airport suddenly had Chinese signs and all that, right? It's simple. What I say, if it makes sense, through legitimate media, reaches today's politicians. If they see me, this person represents some people too, since a candidate speaks for part of the public. So if what this person says makes sense, can't we make improvements? And they did. So through this platform we speak up, and that voice represents part of the community. If those in power think it's worth considering and make improvements, then my job is done. In Canadian society, we all carry a dream, and we all hope society keeps getting better and more complete, and truly serves ordinary people. That's really true. Lao Chen, I can see that for Canada's development, people's livelihoods and better lives, I think you really are doing a lot of practical work. We use legitimate platforms to push for society's healthy development. So people can see my intentions are right. This country really does have these platforms. For example, earlier we formed a party, and we launched a movement to help our people find jobs.

[9:06] Speaking Mandarin at the bank

You may not have heard of it. In the early days, when we first came in the 2000s, we were all skilled immigrants. You were a skilled immigrant too, right? I came as an international student. International student, right. The biggest problem for skilled immigrants here was that we couldn't find jobs because our language wasn't good. So what could we do? Our party launched a campaign: whenever we spend money, we only speak Mandarin. That would lead society to hire more Mandarin-speaking staff. Let me give you an example. A bank: one day I went to open an account. I walked in and said I'm here to open an account. A clerk came and spoke English. I said, English no. Don't understand. He asked what language. I said Mandarin. "Hold on." I said, if you don't have someone who speaks Mandarin, I'm leaving. I won't open an account. I have $5,000 here I want to deposit. "Don't go, have a seat, we'll find someone. We may have someone in the back who speaks Mandarin." OK. After a while, I sat a bit, and sure enough a young Taiwanese woman came. She came over: "Hello, sir, what can I..." Then she looked: "Wait a minute..." I was a realtor then, I had some TV ads. "Lao Chen? Is that Lao Chen?" I said, yes. "You speak English. How come... why did you say you don't?" You did it so that the bank's management would know how important Chinese is. If they don't hire staff who can speak Chinese, they could lose some customers. I said, I came today to tell your manager: because you served me, my $5,000 is going in here. Without you, I'd have turned and walked out. I want him to know that in Richmond now it's not just me. There are many people who really can't speak English well, who really brought money from China to open accounts. Do you want to win these customers? If you do, if you can hire a teller who speaks Mandarin, your bank will surely get lots of customers, right? And from then on, you'd find every bank had Mandarin-speaking tellers right at the front counter. That's the movement our party launched. We didn't break any laws. We just felt like speaking Mandarin. And it's true some of us really can't speak English, like investor immigrants. They need to deposit money. So banks, and later even phone companies, like Telus, all hired Mandarin-speaking staff, right? So our movement let ordinary people feel that the government really cared about us. Ours is a very constructive suggestion. It helps society move forward, so newcomers don't feel this place is foreign, but warm. Isn't that the point? That's the true original purpose behind our running in elections.

[11:46] Twenty years of speaking up

Since 2007, your party has been around for 20 years, always thinking for the community and planning, listening to everyone, right? Bit by bit, carrying it upward, speaking up. You've made a great effort. I can see you really want this country to do well, want ordinary people to live happily. I think you've done so much. Great work, kudos. We use legal channels to speak for the people, and lawful means to promote society's healthy development. That's all.